Showing posts with label perseverance. Show all posts
Showing posts with label perseverance. Show all posts

Friday, March 20, 2009

Will the Storm Ever End? Chat Today with Stormy Writer Rene Gutteridge on Words to Go.


Rene Gutteridge has had an interesting writing career that includes playwriting and even novelizing a major motion picture—The Ultimate Gift. She wrote the Boo series, showing off her gift for humorous writing and will release another co-authored novel in June, Never the Bride that is also a movie. She is an avid weather watcher and has written her share of stormy stories. But when you read her own stormy life, you’ll understand why she’s become a veteran of traversing life’s storms. Rene Gutteridge, welcome to Words to Go!

RENE: I’m glad I’m finally getting my turn today.

PATTY: You’ve been very patient. Like our last two chat guests, you’ve had to overcome personal physical illness too, haven’t you?

RENE: Yes. And it took time to diagnose, a trial in and of itself. From the time my symptoms started, it took about two weeks for me to get the diagnosis of Interstitial Cystitis. I had never heard of it and was so confused about what was going on. They ruled out bladder cancer and MS and this is what they landed on. I remember they handed me a laminated sheet with about ten different foods on it and I said, "Oh, these are foods I need to avoid?" And the doctor said, "These are foods you can eat." I knew then that my life was changed.

PATTY: My friend, Lissa Halls Johnson, has a condition that only allows her to eat a very small list of foods. It’s a real challenge in a culture that runs on a rich diet.

RENE: For months I did a ton of research on the disease, trying to figure out how to win against it. One day I was standing in the kitchen and this overwhelming thought hit me: You are chronically ill. You are not going to beat this. It was one of the most sobering moments of my life.

PATTY: I think that we tend to think that only loss of a family member sends us into these steps, but it’s the loss of anything that’s become part of our life.

RENE: Up until that point, there was nothing in my life I felt I couldn’t overcome. I realized I wasn’t going to beat this and that I had to find a way to live with a significantly altered lifestyle. My quality of life had lowered. But my faith had really held strong. I had this feeling, "Well, why not me?" I knew that God had never promised a life free of problems. I was in horrible pain, but I never felt closer to God during the worst of it. I was terrified and was mourning the life I had to leave behind. But there was peace.

Then, with no warning at all, my son became very ill. And I’m just being honest, I was so mad at God. I felt it was too much. I was just climbing out of my hole, trying to get my life rebalanced. It’s one thing to get sick yourself. It’s like you can handle it, because you know how much you can take. But it’s a whole other level of pain to see your child suffer. I would lay out in my back yard, on the patio, in the middle of the night and want to scream. I couldn’t because I live in a neighborhood, so I would cry and cry and ask God how He could do this to us.

It challenged my belief in God for sure.

PATTY: The most freeing truth I got once in a fellowship group was that we all have a crisis of faith—just like the heroes of the Bible. As a young Christian—baby Christian for far too long—I thought that only the weak had a crisis of faith. That’s why Bible study groups are so important.

RENE: I had to come to terms with the fact that deep down inside I questioned whether or not God was really good. He felt so mean to me, so cruel. As much as I suffered, now my child was suffering as well. Beyond that, medical bills were piling up. And to add to all of it, this all took place during a time when my husband and I (both of us had been Christians for over thirty years) had made a commitment to give sacrificially. So all this money we were giving away could have been used for the medical debt that was accruing.

PATTY: It was your time of testing.

RENE: Those were dark days. I never gave up on God. I never turned my back. But I fought him and I fought him hard.

PATTY: I love it that we continue to see the same patterns to final surrender in all of these personal stories. There is thequestioning and then the wrestling match.

RENE: My heart was broken.

PATTY: . . . and then the brokenness.

RENE: I felt like my heavenly Father had decided to put upon us a severe test that we were sure to fail. I didn’t know what I was striving for, beyond keeping my head above water.

PATTY: But then, even though your circumstances weren’t changing, the real breakthrough came inside you, didn’t it?

RENE: Slowly, though, I began to calm down. I began seeing the ways God was working in our lives. Not mighty, all-healing miracles, but small things, like putting certain people in our path. I began realizing my faith had some major problems in it. I realized I did not fully trust God. Yes, I trusted him up to a certain point, as long as, like you said, I could come up for air. But at the point that I felt like I was drowning, my belief was that God’s hand was upon my head, holding me under.

PATTY: It does feel like that. I’ll admit it.

RENE: It took not weeks, not months, but years of dissecting all of this and allowing God to heal the part of me that doubted him. It has been a long road to realizing that my weak body has betrayed me and let me down and that this is the very path God laid down for me to find true strength.

PATTY: The big debate among fellow sufferers who are also believers is how they come out of it trusting or not trusting in God's sovereignty--or redefining it.

RENE: Well, for me it has only caused me to understand this: I must fully trust. I will never understand his nature. I can only take small glimpses of it. For example, I understand that I must cause some discomfort in my children’s lives for them to grow.

PATTY: Parenting and marriage—the ultimate object lessons for grown-ups.

RENE: So on a basic level, I understand that suffering is the only way to grow. I truly believe that. I know that if my life was cushy and without problems there would be nothing pushing me to change. But I am still often left wondering where he is and why he isn’t answering.

PATTY: Yes. I always feel like he’s nudging me toward an end. And I’ll argue with him and say, “If you’ll just tell me where it is you want me to go, I’ll go willingly without all of this awful waiting. But the process is the beautiful story unfolding. And where would we writers be without our stories?

RENE: Yes, true. And the Holy Spirit works so beautifully in my life. He whispers and I believe. I hear him say, "I am completely trustworthy." In my human nature, I suppose I will never stop trying to figure out the "why," but my spirit is filled with the capability of being okay with not knowing.

PATTY: How has this season of suffering affected your well of grace?

RENE: I figured out something pretty quickly when I became ill. The world is not kind to the chronically ill. If you’re dying of cancer, there is grace. Otherwise, suck it up. And I was one of those intolerant people. I had no tolerance for excuses. I was not weak and expected other people not to be either. When I was forced into weakness, it was so hard on my ego and pride.

PATTY: Well, if we’re confessing . . .

RENE: Making it worse, I had people in my life who disappointed me. It took grace to forgive them. I guess I understood them more than I wanted to admit.

PATTY: We have to remember that the people who disappoint us are even used by God to get us to where he is taking us. We have to give credit to God for the way he stages our life as part of his ultimate story of mankind.

RENE: I remember one night my son asked me, "Why am I sick?" And I had to answer, "I don’t know." And then he asked me, "Why are you sick?" I was about to answer I don’t know when I was suddenly filled with this revelation: "Maybe it’s so I could understand what it’s like to be sick...so I could understand what you’re going through and I could help you better."

PATTY: And he’ll understand and pass it on one day too.

RENE: I approach his illness completely differently than I would have had I not been sick myself. And I have a well of compassion that I never had before, for those who are weak. I am now weak myself and I reach out to people who have fallen on hard times, rather than judging them.

PATTY: Yes. I can still fill out one of those spiritual gifts surveys and flunk compassion because I’m being honest about the way I “feel.” But outwardly my actions resonate compassion because my actions are Spirit-led, not feelings led. It is Christ working through me, and in spite of me. But we have to get used to the fact that not all who proclaim Christ have surrendered to his leading, right, Rene?

RENE: It does astonish me at how harshly we are judged and how harshly we judge in the Christian community. But I am now one who will reach out my hand in compassion, because I desperately need it myself.

PATTY: And this is the big story here today, Rene. That he is leading us, not to be successfully famous or celebrated in some grand public way. God wants us humbled to the point that we are useful in his hands. We are the clay. Rene, I’m so glad we saved you for Friday.

RENE: Thanks for inviting me here today, Patty. Have a great weekend everyone!

PATTY: We’re going to have an awesome weekend because a bunch of our visitors to Words to Go are going to win books by the basketful. So please leave feedback and your name is entered in the Big Straw Hat. Watch tomorrow, Saturday for the winner’s list. Then just email me with your mailing address and each author will mail you an autographed novel or non-fiction book.

Thanks for stopping by this week. We’ve enjoyed getting to know you and hearing how your stories intersect with ours. Now visit your favorite neighborhood congregation and celebrate Sunday all that God is doing in and through you as he greens your beautiful soul.

Thursday, February 12, 2009

Romancing the Authors Welcomes Novelists Stephen and Janet Bly!


Today at Words to Go, I’m pleased to welcome Stephen and Janet Bly, two novelists who also happen to be married. Stephen’s most recently released novel is The Land Tamers. I was discussing romance and marriage with them recently. In the midst of our conversation, I discovered that they were living a life rewritten by circumstances. I asked if they would mind sharing their story with us today and they graciously consented. Welcome Steve and Janet!

STEVE: We’re glad to be here!

JANET: Thanks, Patty!

PATTY: Why don’t you start by sharing the story of your trip to Paris and then how things began to seemingly crumble following that romantic trip?

STEVE: First, I’ll share this scripture that Janet and I trust in often:

“I have learned the secret of being content in any
and every situation, whether well fed or hungry,
whether living in plenty or want.” Philippians 4:12 NIV

STEVE: Saint Paul’s principle is a great model for economic stressors. But his attitude also works well for the changing seasons of marriage too. . .for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health. Marriage, what we’ve called ‘the ultimate invasion of privacy,’ comes with a guarantee that you’ll experience both good and bad mixed together. That’s what we’ve realized through the precious privilege of our 45 years together.

PATTY: Why was it so important that you travel to Paris?

JANET: Paris has been a destination place for me ever since my years of studying French in high school and college.

STEVE: And I insisted that Rome was the city of my choice. So, we found a European tour that included both, plus Venice, Lucerne and London thrown in too.

JANET: Bussing along the French and Italian countrysides was magnifique.

STEVE: As it turned out, we celebrated Janet’s February birthday that year in Paris.
We stood that wintry day, snowflakes falling all around us, hand in hand at the Eiffel Tower, more romantic than we could have dreamed.

JANET: I thought it was the top of my birthdays we’d celebrated together.

STEVE: Most surprising, I discovered Paris to be my favorite tourist stop, too, even over the ancient ruins of Rome.

JANET: Then we went home. And that was when we got the news.

STEVE: Within two weeks after our return from gondola serenades and a heart stopping cable car ride up the Alps, we huddled in a tiny, sterile doctor’s exam room. We listened to the light banter in the reception room, a surreal sound as we waited for the biopsy report. We had discussed the possibility of the diagnosis, but nothing quite prepared us for the official announcement that stunned us: “Mr. Bly, you have an aggressive prostate cancer.”

JANET: We couldn’t breathe. We wouldn’t think past that harsh fact. These words threatened to suffocate us, consume us, shatter our peace, prick our faith. Cancer changed our outlook. It challenged our future together. It questioned our financial foundation. Sometimes life tosses a bomb like that. We were thankful we still had Paris.

PATTY: Shock is very debilitating. How did that news affect your relationship?

STEVE: In season, out of season, we’re striving to learn the secret of being content whatever the circumstances, whatever the reports are from each doctor visit and test taken. And we’ve fully enjoyed the months we’ve been given of reprieve between treatments.

JANET: This news intensified our already close relationship, making it dearer than ever in very nitty, gritty ways. Steve had to adjust in major ways. He went from physically and psychologically and sometimes emotionally taking care of me to now needing me to take care of him. This has been a difficult transition. But I’ve appreciated being able to do for Steve in ways he refused or didn’t seem to need before.

STEVE: I’ve even apologized for not allowing her to be on the giving end more in our relationship.

PATTY: If you don’t mind sharing, what other emotional walls have you hit with Steve’s diagnosis?

JANET: The news changed other aspects too. We don’t like traveling without the other as much as we used to, unless it’s unavoidable or the Lord gives us strong direction otherwise. Suddenly, every hour that we get to be together is a special gift, a treasure. Nothing’s taken for granted. Every touch is sweeter. The laughter and shared events seem brighter.

PATTY: That was very common for us right after we lost Jessica. We could not bear to be apart. When mortality stares you down, you begin to count every second in life as precious.
Since we’re discussing romance this Valentine’s week, when one spouse is struggling with health issues, what sort of advice can you give them about keeping romance alive when every day is a struggle?

STEVE: Follow your heart and step it up a notch from the norm of your practiced and sometimes routine years together. Be honest about how this altered state affects your view of your life together. What are you willing and able to be for each other? What’s off the table? Figure out little daily things that keep the home fires alive.

JANET: I’m determined to quickly forgive a perceived slight, a short retort because Steve’s worried or not feeling well. But sometimes I fail to respond with the patience I want. I’ve had to learn to shake it off and realize I’m no saint, even under these dire circumstances.

STEVE: I’ve been writing one sentence or one-word notes on heart post-its and sticking them on the bathroom mirror every night for Janet, so she knows I’m thinking about her, and she knows what I’m going through too. “I hurt today” keeps us connected as much as “Have I told you lately that I love you?”

PATTY: How wonderfully honest and straightforward to find loving solutions to the complications of illness.

JANET: I don’t press for details when I know Steve is struggling with a bad dream or an attack from the spiritual enemy. I pray daily for him and stay close, letting him know that he still seems desirable to her and that he’s close in her thoughts.

STEVE: I took up golf again, a sport I had mostly put aside since college days. This helped me both physically and mentally.

JANET: Even though I don’t join him on the links, I enjoy riding in the cart and it gives us another topic to discuss that majors on something he does well. When he feels good about himself, we can feel good about us too.

PATTY: You’re truly showing us all how to live life in a full partnership. What else brings those simple pleasures to your lives?

JANET: We watch romantic movies together, lately from the 1930s and 40s. We talk about the characters and how we relate or not, and what memories this brings up from our own dating and younger days together. This provides a wonderful relief from only discussing about aches and pains and lack of energy or old age.

PATTY: It sounds as if you’ve rewritten the way you look at life even how you communicate to each other.

STEVE: All the changing health-issue needs has given us new love languages for each other. Some days I need a back massage more than I need a kiss. But some of what is lost doesn’t have to be a barrier to intimacy. In fact, this can often reveal a desperate need for each other even more.

PATTY: So the physical barriers can be overcome because you’re both working it out together.

STEVE: There’s always a way to show love in ways that fill the needs, especially when you’re determined enough to bring it honestly to God in prayer and when you’re willing to talk to your partner about the gut-level stuff. This is true no matter what sort of physical and emotional changes happen.

PATTY: Steve and Janet Bly, your lives are a living testament to those who see pain as the end of life. What you’ve taught us here today is that suffering can also teach us how to live our lives in a manner that continues to glorify God and strengthen us. If souls grow through suffering, the two of you will cast very long shadows in eternity. I pray God ministers his healing touch on your lives. You are dearly appreciated for your honesty and authenticity her today on Words to Go.

Tomorrow a beloved and bestselling author will chat about the greatest romance of all time.
There are books to give away. Steve and Janet Bly, Karen Ball, myself, and tomorrow’s mystery guest will be giving away a virtual book bonanza tomorrow. Remember that each day of posting enters your name in the book give-away again.

Thank you for visiting us today with our very special friends, Steve and Janet Bly!